She told him about finishing off the Fallen stragglers, and in response, Saladin admitted that the Iron Lords might need someone of her skill and morals to join them. They informed her that the whole cosmos was now ablaze with Light, and Efrideet responded to them she would be coming home. The in-game lore is just the tip of the iceberg. Saladin agreed and followed Kepre to his village. In addition to dealing with the Nightmare of Ghaul's taunts, Saladin would attempt to provide condolences and comfort to his old student when he was being plagued by the Nightmare of Safiyah, the apparition of the woman who once served as a surgeon under him and fell in love with Zavala. It's possible that he doesn't have one at all, hence why there are only 3 Iron Lords left. As she and Saladin left their comrade to his work, Efrideet expressed surprise that Saladin did not know that Felwinter was an oathbreaker and that was why Radegast hated him. Most of the lore that makes Destiny as deep of a game as it . Declaring that he was still an Iron Lord, Saladin promised to be in the fray himself to exact retribution and hoped to see the Young Wolf on the battlefield doing the same. As the Warlord's Ghosts materialized to resurrect their Guardians, Efrideet aimed her hand cannon at them and demanded that they leave without their Guardians, who would be returned to them if they followed the Iron Decree. Well we are Guardians and we are going to become Iron Lords, does this mean we are going to loose our Ghosts? The Guardian managed to located Osiris in the Reef but found to their horror that the Osiris that had aided the Vanguard in the Cabal armistice and in the Endless Night was actually Savathn herself, having taken the warlock's form not long after he lost his Light against the High Celebrant of Xivu Arath. As his prisoner struggled, Saladin demanded to know more about the data they stole, how they had crafted the Light-dampening tech, and where the rest of the Psion cell was. However, he asked her to repeat what she thought he said. Do you think the new campaign cutscenes in ROI will show what fate befell his Ghost? Iron Banner in Destiny []. 1 Saint-14. The village mayor was concerned that the remaining Warlords would view the City as a target if everyone gathered there, but Efrideet dismissed her concern and reassured them all that the days of the Warlords were numbered. Despite these views, Saladin refused to be swayed by fears and political schemes, as he refused Lakshmi and Hideo's offer to become the new leader of the Vanguard as he still trusts the judgement of Zavala and Ikora. When Caiatl is informed, she demands Crow's life in accordance with Cabal justice, but Zavala defends him. and our Saladin briefed the Young Wolf on the situation and was concerned that Ixel could give the Cabal the advantage over them or possibly unleash destruction on everyone by messing with Vex technology. [10], Despite the Iron Lord's successes and the growth of the Last City, Efrideet grew weary of fighting and the constant violence the life of a Guardian entailed. The thief is a young fearless girl named Fera, Saladin empathized with Fera's difficult situation and decided to not punish her. After The Guardian stops Caiatl's forces from attacking Savathun's ship, Saladin - along with Zavala and Crow - meet with the empress in the Tower to placate her ire over the battle. Crow was working to discover the Psion's plans for the Vex prediction engines but needed help to remain undetected, so Saladin ordered the Young Wolf to serve as a distraction by disrupting more rites conducted by the Cabal to ensure Crow remained undiscovered. Felwinter explained it was a Warlord's Ghost and had proven useful, but Efrideet was backed up by Saladin. Felwinter announced that Shaxx had accepted his challenge to one-on-one combat, but Efrideet was skeptical of his plan due as no Iron Lord or Warlord had ever bested the Titan. Saladin decides that he will never give mercy to an enemy if that mercy comes at the cost of mercy for their victim.[13]. In his early decades, he had seen a world at war with itself, spent his days hiding in the dust that was still settling after the Collapse. Osiris cut in and noted that he of all people should recognize stubbornness, causing Saladin to relent and begin to admire the Psion for their bravery and refusal to betray their people. [17], One year after the events of the Taken War, the Fallen and the House of Devils managed to unearth SIVA, and their Splicers tried to harness the technology. [14] The Fallen concentrated their assault on Twilight Gap, throwing wave after wave of soldiers towards humanity's last stronghold. Efrideet was impressed upon meeting the Warlord, joking that they had the grim formidable look of the Iron Lords, but as she walked behind him she saw he had a damaged and distressed Ghost embedded into the back of his helmet. ". His duties was taken over by Lady Efrideet, and the Iron Banner was at the Iron Temple on Felwinter Peak. [13], After the Red Legion captured the Last City and imprisoned the Traveler, Efrideet and the other Guardians were stripped of their Light. He was unexpectedly joined by Efrideet, a Lightbearer whom he did not entirely trust. Appears In: Destiny 2 . About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . "Saladin," his Ghost had said, sounding like it spoke from the end of a very long, very wide tunnel. [3], Saladin agreed to Efrideet's plan and began to warn her not to miss as he gathered Arc energy around himself. By comparison, Zavala's resolve and purpose, while emblematic of any Titan, are tempered by a somewhat more forgiving view of humanity and the other denizens of the Sol system. So how can he be an Iron Lord? [29], The Psions soon made their move with the device and attempted to assassinate Commander Zavala in the Last City, but the Titan managed to fell his assassin. He complimented them on their first victory over Caiatl's forces on Nessus and noted that Osiris had informed him that they had interrupted a Cabal ritual known as the Rite of Proving, which Osiris had compared to the Crucible, although Saladin did not see the similarities. Interesting, since you become a Guardian by . Saladin was outraged at this underhanded tactic and ordered their efforts redoubled against the Cabal in revenge. Fortunately, Zavala would in time, overcome his grief and guilt, making peace with the Nightmare of Safiyah, turning her into the Memory of Safiyah. Zavala is Saladin's former pupil, and each holds the other in quite high esteem. After returning to Felwinter Peak, Efrideet listened as Felwinter revealed his true reason for wanting to secure Shaxx's stronghold: a Seraph Bunker beneath the fortress that contained clues to where the Warmind Rasputin was hiding valuable Golden Age technology. As the Guardians worked in containing the Nightmares that have begun to infest the Leviathan and sever the connections Calus was seeking to make with the Lunar Pyramid, accomplishing in severing two connections, and became time for Caiatl herself to deal with the Nightmare of Dominus Ghaul, Saladin would find himself taunted by the Nightmare, denouncing him as unworthy to join the cabal's War Council as an equal. [15], During the first Dawning following the liberation of the Last City, Efrideet contacted Tyra Karn. The Psion stayed quiet but attempted to retaliate with its psychic powers, causing Saladin to quickly grab them by the throat and dangle them over the edge of the wall. Players learn about enemies and why they are doing certain missions from the voice-over of whoever has sent them on that mission. does lord saladin have a ghost. Her friend reassured her that was a noble cause, and Efrideet stated that maybe she would come back with a little Speaker, leaving unsaid that she might never come back at all. As Shaxx announced he would march to reinforce the southern walls, Saladin informed them that he had broken the Fallen's assault and that the City was saved. His former pupil reminded him this was not an easy decision, but Osiris noted it might be an inevitable one due to the proud nature of the Cabal and that further escalation could put the City at risk. Saladin entered the building and found Fera, now a grown woman and a packmaster. Post, Download on the AppStore One of the last members of the Iron Lords. A few weeks ago, we witnessed an argument between Crow and Lord Saladin that outlined the ethical dilemma. However, the decision aggravates the members of the Consensus, Saladin Forge included. We going to be Mortal? [10], Several weeks later Efrideet and Saladin led an army of Iron Lords to Shaxx's mountain stronghold, having put down the Devil activity in the Cosmodrome. After reaching an accord with the Cabal Empire, the Last City became plagued by a Vex simulated Endless Night that was draining the cities power, leading to fear and paranoia to spread amongst it's citizens. Beneath his stoicism lies a deep sadness and guilt over the deaths of his fellow Iron Lords at the hands of SIVA. While he maintains a friendship with Zavala, Saladin has a shaky relationship with Shaxx at best for both refuse to make amends over the Battle of the Twilight Gap. [7] Saladin was amongst the most honored of the lords and frequently joined his comrades in combating the warlords by defending towns under their control. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the updated policies documented at, Our policies have recently changed. Keith Ferguson (born February 26, 1972) is an American voice actor. Well Bungie added a nice little tid bit, saying that he might have since become a Guardian. She sent back a message that Felwinter only responded to official Iron Lord business, but went herself to hear Wu Ming's proposition. Their relationship became strained, although Saladin continued to remain on good terms with Zavala. Although the heavy fire pushed them back, their shields protected them, and the Iron Lords returned fire, quickly cutting down the trapped enemy. If he did not, Saladin believed that the next attack would cost them someone else and that guilt would weigh on Zavala and crush him. Together under Radegast's leadership they hid from the Warlords in isolated communities and feared other Lightbearers, and only occasionally struck against the oppressive rulers. She demanded that the Warlord pick on someone his size, although the Warlord was twice her size. For more information, please see our Saladin would even get into a heated conversation with Caiatl's father, Calus, who commends his daughter forging an alliance with the Guardians, recognizing their kinds potential, just as he did. Conferring in the aftermath of the duel, Felwinter declared he would stay and continue challenging Shaxx. Each of the Iron Lords fell several times, but their shield wall never broke, and Segoth eventually retreated, vowing to kill them and all who aided them as the town cheered Saladin and his comrades. However, the virus claimed the Iron Lords, and Saladin was one of the only two to survive.[11][12]. {{ He ordered them to hit the Cabal hard to ensure they never attempted to steal from the Vex again. Briefing the Young Wolf, Saladin ordered them to eliminate Ma'rag before he could achieve his objective and earn a place on Caiatl's War Council. However, the two great Titans have differing personalities and philosophies- Saladin's brutal pragmatism, ruthless self-reliance, and deep-seated trauma from the loss of his fellow Iron Lords often lead him to be mistrustful and cold, and he views sacrifice and death as a necessary part of any protracted conflict. The other Iron Lord declared that they were knights and asked if she did not want to be a dragon slayer before charging the beast once more. Crow believes the psychogenics program is beneath the Vanguard, and that we have no right to victimize our defenseless adversaries in this way. After getting revived by Isirah Saladin was approached by a local man named Kepre, Kepre begged Saladin to help his village which was plagued by thieves. Nodding in respect, Saladin threw the Psion over the cliff edge, but as they began to fall Saladin saw his reflection in the eye of the Psion and felt their last thoughts of terror but also their ancestors reaching out to welcome them and a mixture of emotions he could not feel as a human. Fera sits on her throne while flanked by her men. Joining him on this task force was Vanguard Advisor Osiris, now Lightless since the loss of his Ghost Sagira, a new Hunter known as The Crow for reconnaissance, and Amanda Holliday to fly mission support. Although he nodded in polite greeting to Osiris, Saladin began berating Zavala the moment the Commander transmatted into the room, demanding to know why they were not engaging in a full-scale war with the Cabal after everything that had happened. Saladin then oversees the offensive in which Caiatl's forces fight alongside Guardians to halt the ritual and capture another general. [12], Centuries later, with the onset of the SIVA Crisis, Efrideet returned to the Iron Temple to assist Saladin and fulfil her responsibility to the Iron Banner. It's suicide to fight without a Ghost to revive you. However, Saladin's Guardian powers, combined with his great skill at combat, enabled him to rise to the rank of Valus. As they spoke, a Fallen Skiff roared by and dropped a Walker into the field between the village and bunker. That indicates it's possible for the living to become Guardians, so long as a Ghost deems them worthy. He was forced to cooperate with Shaxx at the behest of the Consensus to coordinate these events because his former pupil had become the head of the Crucible in the aftermath of the Twilight Gap. Maybe when the other iron lords fell he survived but his ghost did not? She informed him that Felwinter had provided evidence that all the Warlords he murdered had killed Ghosts, civilians, and other crimes that broke the Iron Decree but had never requested permission for any of his executions. [3], The Walker was annihilated in the Arc blast, but a few Fallen survived and continued to advance on Patch Run. [7], Efrideet travelled to a village that had been liberated from Warlord Cathal a year before asking them to join the city. Specifically in the fight to turn over his territory to the Iron Lords. Saladin ultimately has one more conversation with Crow, who deeply regrets that Saladin now has to pay the price for his actions, stating it should have been himself, that he could have died for something he had believed in. Some were chosen like Shin as mentioned in the comments. Zavala convinces her to aid the Vanguard in fighting back against the Lucent Brood, and Saladin, originally skeptical of an alliance with the Cabal but sickened to see the Hive wield the Light, oversees a joint Vanguard-Cabal operation to capture Lucent Brood leaders for Psions to interrogate. Saladin befriended three other Risen who did not follow the Warlord's path; Radegast, Jolder, and Perun. Efrideet believed that nobody was a better shot than her, and in response, Saladin pointed at the village below and explained how he came every week to defend it from a nearby Fallen House, but that the Fallen kept returning. A fight ensues and Saladin kills both Fera and her men. They are the same type of beings as we, they just didn't call themselves guardians at the time. However, with the help of the Guardian, he was able to make peace with what had happened and relieve centuries of burden. While Efrideet stayed back and fired on the creature with her rifle, Saladin closed in with his Iron Battle Axe to fight the dragon like a knight of old. As thousands of survivors and Lightbearers flocked to the growing city, it became a target for the Fallen. [26] Although Ixel was eliminated, three other Psions escaped with Vex data. to discuss their next steps. The two play board games together to sharpen their tactical acumen and maintain their friendship. Saladin noted that without their home system to resupply them, the Cabal could no longer wage war as effectively and continue resistance against humanity. The former Warlock indicated that might be the case and asked if Saladin would have such a plan contingency plan prepared. Saladin was spotlighted with the Destiny expansion Rise of Iron, which saw him working with the Guardian to reign in the Devil Splicers and the SIVA crisis. Saladin and the other commanders hoped that by putting additional pressure on the Empress they would force her to accept the challenge. Leaping at the roaring creature once more, Saladin yelled to his companion that they were what they survived. Thanks to a report from Crow, Saladin had their next target lined up: Basilius the Golem, who was seeking Golden Age relics on Europa to offer to Caiatl in hopes of augmenting Cabal forces with cybernetic and Exo tech. Niiiice lost an iron lord in exchange of an emo who is having an identity crisis All my homies hate crow. Not long after the conflict in the Reef, Mars would mysteriously return, leading Ikora to have her Hidden conduct an investigation on the planet's condition as it appeared to be afflicted by some temporal distortion. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Also i thought it was badass that Lord Saladin rushed into battle against SIVA Fallen knowing now that he has no Ghost,and his next death will be his last. He's such a nice guy underneath the armor. Lady Efrideet is a female Hunter, and the youngest of the Iron Lords. Astonished by how much currency the bar owner had and wondering where he got it, Wu Ming noted that if she stuck with him she would get rich, but asked where Felwinter was. [23], Saladin soon learned that Val Ma'rag was leading a Cabal assault against the Hive in the Cosmodrome in revenge for the Fall of Torobatl to the Hive God of War Xivu Arath. Saladin would win all the rites, including against a bodyguard to another member of the council, leading an impressed Empress Caiatl to promote Saladin as a Valus. The relationship between Saladin and the Young Wolf became strained when his pupil began utilizing Stasis, as Saladin was adamantly opposed to any wielding of the Darkness. Alongside Radegast and Perun, he travelled to a village ruled by Warlord Segoth. along the way, he got into a battle with risen thugs that ended in a draw. Cookie Notice Nonetheless, Saladin appeared to agree with Ikora's declaration that regardless of the Traveler's reasons, if Savathn were to succeed in her plan, then the Last City will be defenseless against the Witness' return. He told the Young Wolf that if it were up to him, the Vanguard would destroy the warmind. [35] The plan ultimately worked, and Caiatl's champion Ignovun fell to the Young Wolf and their fireteam. Saladin however states that is where the similarities end, as he has seen Caiatl lead her people with purpose and conviction, traits he has not seen in the former emperor, but Calus retaliates with the knowledge of how eager Saladin used to be in slaughtering her troops when Caiatl first arrived and wondered what that says about his own convictions which leaves the Iron Lord unable to respond. [22] After Basilius's elimination, Saladin sent a message to the Young Wolf complimenting them on their efforts, but expressed frustration at Zavala's determination not to enter into total war against the Cabal. Former Iron Banner handler One of the last members of the Iron Lords. [5], At some point during Warlord Conflict, Efrideet and Saladin encountered an Ahamkara. Alarmed, he asked where they were now, but she reassured him none had made it to the village. Grinning under his helmet, he shouted back that they were knights and he wanted to be a dragon slayer. [16] Despite the City being saved, Saladin remained furious with Shaxx for disobeying his orders during the middle of battle. He was heavily against the armistice with the Cabal, wishing to eradicate the enemies of humanity, and now calling against the Vanguard allying with the House of Light, made other Guardians to view him as a warmonger. As the battle turned against the Vanguard, Saladin ordered all fireteams to retreat to the Ridgeback District and to halt all advances, believing that the City was lost. He insisted that the Light and the Traveler were the only allies they needed. She died sometime after escaping the Reef and, before the Traveler, was granted the Light like a Guardian would be, becoming the first Hive to wield the Light. This sub is for discussing the lore of Bungie's game Destiny 2 and its predecessor, Destiny. In addition, to the Empress's recommendation, Saladin organized a tournament similar to the Iron Banner for the Cabal, even calling the contestants his "Iron War Beasts", which quickly became popular amongst the cabal. Saladin believes in the code the Iron Lords stood for in using their Traveler-given abilities to protect and serve, not to conquer as the Warlords did. Unable to destroy the techno-virus, the Iron Lords sealed it beneath the earth. Being a Guardian means being a servant to the Vanguard/Tower/City. Lord Saladin Forge is a Titan Guardian partnered with the Ghost Isirah and one of two known survivors of the original Iron Lords. As it was recently discovered that Rasputin began as a submind planted into an Exo Frame before being made a Lightbearer, Ana believes that Felspring may contain not only Felwinter's memories but also Rasputin's code and linguistics that they could use to repair the Warmind faster. . Zavala and Caiatl signed an armistice ending hostilities between the Vanguard and Cabal Empire, with any Cabal who continued to fight humanity becoming outlaws in the eyes of the Empire. They found a dozen minor local Warlords had arrived to side with Shaxx against the Iron Lords, but as the two sides entered a tense standoff Shaxx dismissed his reinforcements, having agreed to allow his people to be evacuated but still refusing to join the Iron Lords. Cancel [10], The trio travelled to Shaxx's fortress, discovering his people were seemingly well-fed and had winter clothing. He was particularly close to the Iron Lord's leader, Radagast, who became his mentor while Jolder became his closest companion among the Iron Lords. Should a player obtain a "We Ran Out of Medals" medal in an Iron Banner match in. After letting Fera go Saladin stormed the local warlord's encampment and brutally killed him and his soldiers. While searching for a pig that was stolen from the village Saladin reached an antenna base that was used to spy on the villagers, there he finds the stolen pig as well as its thief. In time, he established the Iron Banner to keep the memory of the fallen Iron Lords alive and train the new Guardians in the ways of old. She countered there was no time for that and instead offered to throw him at the Walker, causing Saladin to laugh until he realized she was serious and declaring there was no dignity to that. Saladin wished to fight a dragon, which transformed the creature into a giant dragon that breathed fire. [20], After the arrival of the Black Fleet some Guardians embraced the use of the Darkness infused powers of Stasis. Her enclave cut off communication during the crisis, so Efrideet joined the resistance against the Red Legion in the guise of a refugee and participated in the assault to reclaim the Last City and kill Ghaul. Saladin was found and raised by his Ghost Isirah in Old Russia during the Dark Age, at which point most of humanity was scattered and lived under the ruthless rule of other Lightbearers who had become Warlords. Saladin listened in despair as Osiris convinced Zavala to go through with the plan by placing their faith in the Young Wolf and their fireteam. Alongside his fellow Iron Lords, Saladin travelled to defend the Last City alongside its Guardians. After assisting in the liberation of the The Last City, Efrideet once more departed Earth and rejoined her secret group. `${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? Saladin however, states that Crow lacks the self-awareness to know what he believes in and that his mind is a storm of guilt, not just his own but also that of his past self. Saladin conducted his interrogation in a cell within the City's wall that overlooked the wilderness outside the City. He remembers staring out the window at flurries of snow for what felt like a very long time but could only have been a few minutes. She ordered him to turn around and show the rest of the gathered Iron Lords, shocking them, and Efrideet walked back to her comrades and informed him that he would not be allowed to continue using the Ghost in such a manner and would need to put it out of its misery. Can confirm he has one, one of the last cut scenes it highlights stone carvings within the Iron Temple. From them, Rasputin would repair itself enough to allow it to speak directly to Ana and the Guardian, and reveal the true extent of Clovis Bray's deceit. This would prove to be a wise decision on Saladin's part, as the House of Salvation intercepted their communications and learned of their plan, sending a raid force to destroy or acquire Felspring's remains. Here is a list of the top 10 funniest lore entries in Destiny. Upon their deaths, he hoped to that he would never have to revisit his past but continued to honor their legacy with the Iron Banner tournament and with the threat of the Devil Splicers, he realized that the danger was greater than keeping the full story of the Iron Lords and SIVA a secret. Directed by Jason Jones Writing Credits Cast (in credits order) Produced by Music by Cinematography by Matthew A. However, after reintegrating the subminds, Malahayati and Charlemagne, into the Warmind, Ana Bray would develop an unconventional method in restoring Rasputin at a quicker rate: the Ghost of the Iron Lord Felwinter, Felspring. He was using a torch in the trailer instead of his ghost and never has a ghost next to him when he is on the tower, where as all the vanguard guys/gal and Shaxx (crucible) have their ghosts next to them. Does Lord Saladin Have a Ghost? While Felwinter agreed to abide by their demand, he never removed it. Saladin commanded the city's southern walls from the Fallen assault, which nearly overwhelmed the Guardian's defences several times. It doesn't have to do with having a Ghost. Saladin conceded that Lord Radegast was planning a head-on assault, shocking Efrideet due to the nearly hundred civilians living in the fortress who could be caught in the crossfire. He was using a torch in the trailer instead of his ghost and never has a ghost next to him when he is on the tower, where as all the vanguard guys/gal and Shaxx(crucible) have their ghosts next to them. The Iron Lord even regales Crow with one of his stories, of how he once showed mercy to a foe, but it ultimately led to more victims being made. Ultimately, the Guardian succeeded in thwarting the Witch Queen's plan and killed her but her Ghost, Immaru, managed to escape. These differences lead Saladin to view Zavala as slightly naiive, while Zavala sometimes sees his former mentor as obstinate and uncompromising. Saladin admitted he did not and questioned why Felwinter was still tolerated. Saladin was angered that the Cabal had managed to steal data on his watch and was concerned about what Osiris was doing with the information they recovered from the mission. Ward . Unable to defeat the mutant Devils on his own, Saladin began seeking out Guardians to help him form a new generation of the Iron Lords to end the threat of SIVA once and for all. The Iron War Beasts held the Fallen at bay long enough for the Guardian to arrive and fight alongside them, leading to the death of their leader Rilliks, Instrument of Xivu Arath and Ana to safely access Felspring's remains. He dodged her question about why he did not trust her and rebuffed her interest in joining the Iron Lords by declaring that he was searching for more than just Lightbearers who could shoot. Dejected, Saladin hung his head in anger before casting one last look at Osiris and transmatting out of the H.E.L.M. Maybe when the other iron lords fell he survived but his ghost did not. Before she could reply, two Fallen Skiffs appeared and deployed a Walker to assault the Patch Run. [34], Although Saladin disagreed with the plan, he was pleased that at last they had found some way to potentially break the stalemate and take decisive action. Iron Lords were the first guardians before there were Guardians. GHOST: I have Saladin's notes on where the last components could be. He has the title Lord,but it not and "Iron" Lord. Saladin advocated eliminating Caiatl so that they could simply mop up the remaining Cabal in the resulting chaos, but Zavala believed that would lower them to their foe's level while Osiris doubted the Empress would fall so easily. Lord Saladin is the last of the Iron Lords, and the proprietor of the Iron Banner Crucible event in the Tower. She refused to believe that their commander truly intended to go through with the assault, but Saladin noted that Radegast was tired of fighting, but Efrideet did not believe that was a good excuse. Welcome to DestinyLore! Let his anger and frustration slip out, Saladin noted that Drifter claimed that nothing could kill a Guardian quicker than another Guardian, a fact he agreed with and noted with disgust how the Last City had tried to rely on Rasputin before it failed against the Black Fleet and they meekly watched as the Darkness took four planets away from them.